girlfriend defends her friends

girlfriend defends her friends

She doesnt want to put her BFF, that shes known her whole life, into a bad light and she needs time to process it (I know its been a week+). It's her best friend and she can stand by her friend even through her mistakes. WebAnswer (1 of 3): You can apologise and tell her what a fool you are. Edited: missed that you two are having a kid part, I wonder what that counts to her. Are you willing to sink that ship? It's not even hard to imagine what kind of words were said and ultimately it all comes down to whether her friends being called names or repairing her relationship is more important for her. I would maybe get a paternity test if I were you. Engaged to. Mikhaila Friel. Or that she will even when you get married? One woman recently discovered that her husband liked a slushy drink from a local convenience store. He stooped down to her level. See if she really feels that way (if monogamy is like being trapped), or if she's just trying to salvage her friendship by accepting her friend's excuses. Its a huge move, in order to prevent something that has never happened (your gf potentially cheating), and to feed your oaranoia. I see what you mean, but I was characterizing the entire event as one big mistake rather than several smaller ones. Holy shit OP, that is so far over the line. It also has to make you wonder if she has some guilt that is causing her to defend her friend. Idk. Start by sitting down with her and having an adult conversation about YOUR relationship. Instead of focusing on your friend's drama applaud each other for taking the correct steps. My older brother, who was my best man in my wedding cheated on his wife. Although admittedly OP and his buddy have no evidence of this, so her actually sleeping with the stripper is at this point more likely. When I say this, it's your girlfriend's well-being I'm considering, not the other girl's. I don't think your girlfriend is cheating on you and you are way over thinking this. That in itself is not a good trait because what would happen if down the line their kid makes a mistake? If your girlfriend defends her best friend saying she was just enjoying her last night as a single lady, there's some red flags.. at least it would be for me.. Don't you think you're jumping the gun here to say "Who knows if its even mine"? Also Im not justifying a drunk persons actions since I believe people should still take responsibility for them- Im just saying we may not know the full story. My girlfriend got mad as hell telling her friend ain't happy in the relationship, she has done this before and not gotten caught. The fact she's defending her friend is exactly why her friend did what she did and thought she could get away with it. Try to approach things as an adult even if you don't perceive others doing so. Would your first action seriously be getting his fiancee on the phone to tell her all the gory details? Given that, and the defending the cheating, you're not wrong to be worried. But yeah, I would have the same reaction that you did if I were in your shoes and I'm a woman. You should also let her know that her forgiving a cheater is starting to bring up doubts and due to your own experience, making you afraid. So he started drinking and told us to get a stripper for him too. I have had every girlfriend I've been with cheat with me so far. As for her "doubling down on it for days" that's you reading a lot into OP saying things have been tense, which like, of course they are, they got into a huge fight. Disagree. Does it mean she can do the same thing to you??? Those two were too immature for marriage. Look up the book "men are from Mars, women from Venus" It is pseudo junk but the section on emotion letter is a good method actually. New comments cannot be posted. This wasnt a mistake she didnt just happen to slip and fall on a strippers cock. "Enjoying her last night as a single lady?". You fear your partner's ex is plotting to get back together (and will succeed). As far as we know, she was blackout drunk. Its hard finding out your gf/bf belong to the streets. What kind of friends do you have that dont stop you from making stupid decisions and call you out on your shit? -- In a different chat with the girlfriend down the road, when she and you are feeling better about what happened, talk (again) about your mutual expectations re. a lot of men do. Do with that what you will. I get it: my friend cheated on her (ex)boyfriend, but I can give her a pass and excuse her because I know how their relationship was (he was quite toxic and borderline abusive, and she did try to talk to him). She knows this is fucked up, she is probably just a good soul trying to look out for her friend, who fucked up. Her defending the friend is a HUGE red flag. A celebrity tattoo artist who charges a minimum of $600 per hour says her clients on TikTok defend her against anyone who says her designs are too expensive. 17-year-old Florida girl stabbed 15 times before attacker cuts his own throat. Sometimes, no matter how much you want to defend a dear friend, silence is appropriate, under certain circumstances. edit: girls to people. This doesn't seem to be her argument though. Also cheating to her is no big deal. You need to ask her straight up if she feels that shes single since youre not married. I hope that you are never in a situation where the character of your SO is called into question. Screw all this. She doesnt know i know. I bet money that stripper didn't use protection, eitherand probably had a habit of tapping the soon to be brides regularly at bachelorette parties and has a few STD's in his system. Lies of omission are lies, and when you start hiding your behavior from your partner you are Does that mean that the relationship before meant nothing? If this is the way you think, if cheating is acceptable to you within certain flimsy circumstances, then Ill say it plainly: I disagree, Im disgusted by what you think, and I refuse to spend the rest of my life with a person that would think that way.. I actually think thats good. You may discover that even though your girlfriend is still friends with her BFF, she could be struggling with the BFF's actions that night herself. If you still do, take the time to talk to her when you are both calm and well rested. Probably would be furious. Also if you really believe your gf has cheated you need to have a serious talk with her and then work on your trust issues. I really dont know and dont want to guess at it. He seems to be spiraling a bit and the advice hes getting here isnt helpful. Be spontaneous. If she's defending it does it mean she would do the same thing? This means she still sees herself as single and sees no problem with cheating on you. OPs gf deserves better. The fact that you're now, even with a whole goddamn week to cool down, still making this about you and working yourself into histrionics about how your baby isn't yours over one thing your girlfriend said in an emotionally charged moment is fucking ridiculous. You say that the fiancee "finally woke up". You sound like the kind of person who thinks patriotism is never admitting your country does anything wrong. A paternity test is definitely in order. in the heat of the moment defending a friend, okbut its been over a week. You've got to decide if you'd stay with someone that defends cheaters. I totally agree with this. This is probably just an emotional thing. Thank you. The real problem is that she defends this behaviour. massive red flag by your GF here, what the absolute fuck? That being said, when you already broke a rule to get the 1-hour-or-less stripper to your place, it's pretty obvious you're going to keep breaking rules. Bud I wouldn't be shocked to discover your girlfriend fucked that stripper too. OP don't brush it under the rug, have a proper conversation. So i tell him. Sorry but defending something like that - best friend or God himself could be the one doing it - I wouldnt stay. No she is definitely just defending her friend. Get a paternity test. She and her friend are totally wrong though there are no excuses for what she did cheating is not a requirement at these events! The thought process of well if my fianc got a stripper, get me a damn stripper too! isnt healthy or productive. Now if I ask you how did you conclude they are immature and insecure, your answer will simply reinforce and consolidate my previous point. That doesn't mean she agrees with or condones her friends actions. If she's defending that behavior she condones it. You got my back I got yours kind of thing. Good luck and I hope things get better. Kids laugh, the teacher does nothing. Validate that it's normal to want to support her friend but remind her that she can be there for her without making excuses for what she's done. Unfortunately, as OP brought this issue to Reddit, I don't know if nuance is really his forte. If everyone at that party is innocent, wouldnt they collectively come together and tell the stripper to leave while holding on to the bride or something before it even went to sex? Two days after we are back home and i tell me girlfriend that stuff aint feeling right, that i was gonna tell the dude. That's a fucking big emotional quagmire for a pregnant woman to have to deal with in a very short amount of time. It seems like she was freaking out about being with one man forever, got wasted and made the worst mistake of her life. Its pretty common for people to use coping mechanisms like bargaining, downplaying, deflecting, etc when dealing with a shake-up like this. 3. As others have said, FRIENDS DEFEND FRIENDS. A lot of women do think that way. Word. "Unmarried" means "not married.". Your girl let it slip that shes probably a ho too (I use that word for men and women so chill). Leave, youre a grown ass man asking a bunch of strangers such a dumb question. What her friend did likeley does NOT match with the person your girlfriend believes her friend to be. There is cheating like an affair with emotions running wild. But sadly I've seen that time and time and time again. What happened between your friends has nothing to do with you and your relationship. You're allowed to make it a big line in the sand and claim that you will only date someone who hates cheaters and cuts them out of their lives, but that's the kind of hard line you needed to think about before getting someone pregnant. Yeah, I mean, ending a lifelong friendship because they made one (horrible) mistake is not something most people would do, and defending her was a response to OP by his own admission calling her some "choice names" or whatever which almost guarantees he's using some kind of gendered slurs. Its also difficult to think that no one at that party was able to stop the sex. She is a piece of shit and everyone knows that. Part of being a real friend is having their back whether they are right or wrong, you defend them when someone talks bad about them. Based on your account of the night, it sounds like your gf has probably been talking to her friend who's been trying to excuse her horrible behavior. She has to come to terms with the fact that this is not OK and if She defends this further she's no better. GF's BFF was wrong to get a stripper when that's not what she agreed to with her fiance. But ive never bothered about it. Unmarried? The last night she was single was the night before she or your friend asked to be in a relationship, she was not single she had a fiance. You just can't turn your back on a friendship like that without it tearing your heart out, not if you aren't the wronged party. Never shout, talk softly and slowly. Hoping she realizes the true gravity of what her friend did soon, for both your sakes. She began buying them for him. You might want to have an honest conversation about what happened now that things are slightly better. She's making excuses for her friend because she's known her all her life. Not sure, you should talk this out with her and see if you can get beyond this artificial fight to see where her feelings on what her friend did and cheating in general really are. So has his gf been enjoying her time as a single lady too? You dont know someone well enough until you live with them, you go through stress or trauma together, you work together. Defending a friend doesnt automatically make you a cheater, but I imagine a person with morals like that doesnt particularly give you a sense of trust either. I love how many bachelor(ette) parties go wrong and end up with someone fucking someone. this is not worth upending a good relationship. WebRT @TalbertSwan: Notice what happens. That is something that you desperately need to talk about with her. Um, you went from your girlfriend recognizing that her friend did something wrong, but still wanting to defend her against your criticisms, to wondering if she might be pregnant with someone else's baby?? You should seriously ask her if she considers herself a single lady. Shes in more or less the same boat as the women she defended by describing her that way. But I need to know for us - when you said she was enjoying her last night as a single girl, does that mean that you would consider doing that before our wedding?. Tell her how you feel without called the cheating best friend names how ever tempting it might be because it might touch a string because despite this even it's still her best friend (yeah I know). Don't let your emotions trick you into acting foolish. Talk about your feelings. /u/Elegant_righthere. Wanting to have fun at this event, and even being a little risque is actually a tradition. And you can be sure the friend is defending herself and putting herself in the best possible light, and your girlfriend is feeling the pressure of years of friendship to forgive her for this (especially as she is only peripherally the wronged party). Shes your partner and youll need to have tough conversations throughout any relationship. Shit. Youre not single. After about 2 hours, one of our friends come up to us freaking out and telling us that his wife, who was at the party with the girls, texted him that the bride was fucking the stripper in her bed. Cut your losses while youre still ahead. My advise is that you don't force your gf to drop her friend because she did something wrong. Could the fianc even consent to having sex with the stripper? It's time to de-escalate this fight before other people's drama fucks your like up. Some their must have encouraged it, while drowning out the few voices urging her to stop. But she cant budge yet because you guys keep arguing over it. I think he was talking about the ex fianc as in, the one that fucked the stripper. It's not like she's an idiot (at least I hope she's not) but if she has any shred of rationality left she probably knows deep down that those words were justified. She was not single. Your girlfriend defending her best friend is just natural, she sees everyone attacking her friend and just wants to defend her. Does it mean she can do the same thing to you??? will she make tons of excuses and be a Karen-mom? First off you're allowed to feel hurt, but I really don't think you should jump to the worst conclusions and break up immediately - this is a really awkward and emotionally charged situation which is probably best approached with sensitivity. If anything the problem is getting better not worse. Whatever went down at that party was some seriously fu***d up stuff and more complex than her "last night of freedom". If it stays civil fine criticize him but like OP admitted he started calling the friend lots of crap names so the GF got defensive. b) being defensive about her friends actions because secretly she thinks it's cool to get wasted and fuck other people? If my wife judged me that way we wouldnt have made it a year. Let things calm down, and have this conversation. I feel like then you run into "shes just telling me what i want to hear but still thinks this is ok" issues. Its unlikely she actually does, but asking it directly might shed light on the fact her excuses are stupid. If she had said not to call her bad names or something like that I'd get it. Because that's called rape. Op your gf needs a reevaluation I agree with you its wrong and its still cheating if you call someone your partner sleeping with someone else is cheating. I think it's an even stronger bond than just marriage as one can get a divorce and walk away. I empathize with how he felt but it doesn't make his actions any less wrong imo. The woman is just WRONG and I'd be scared too if my SO would talk like your girlfriend is doing. WebOf course, they were her friends and she should have drawn a line in the sand about insulting her boyfriend early on. Suddenly women and poc are all evil and stupid hiveminds to them again. While you're the obvious choice here and there's not much else she can do if you insist, this is still a brutal act for her to go through. Seriously btw, this time I didn't have to read a whole book. makes me worried [26]M Hello, since i do not have any people to talk to this about beside ive your gfs friend did something unforgivable and deeply upsetting. I hope your best friend finds a way to feel better after this devastation. They agreed on no strippers, she went against it, then proceeded to sleep with one. There is no good that will come off that. I think it'll be unnecessary as regards her own intentions and behaviours, but it might make you feel better to know your thoughts and feelings on cheating been clearly reinforced and they are not ambiguous. Probably saved your friend from a bad marriage. Doesn't mean I'm a cheater too. Clearly at 24 she is not ready for that sort of commitment. Ask yourself if you'd walked into a room and found your friend balls deep in the stripper what would you do? If she said the cheater was enjoying her last night as a single lady, your gf considers herself single? ThrowRA 'othername' is having the top posts for the last 2 days, Usernames starting with ThrowRA are the required format for throwaways on Relationship Advice. This is how most men view their situations, especially when it comes to bachelor parties. Yeah, obviously, but it was a massively emotional situation for everyone and it makes sense she would instinctively become defensive when someone's verbally attacking a woman she's known and loved her whole damn life. I hate that. Then Emmett sweet, sweet Emmett Your friend cheated on my bro, and hurt him very badly. She is justifying cheating, ask for a paternity test cause this is a huge red flag to me. You can talk about it with her, but I wouldn't try to question her or get her to make a stand, just talk about the pain that's been caused. Family is the most important thing in most peoples life. She wasn't single that night and just enjoyed her night by hooking up, she was still engaged and slept with someone else. You said yourself she was really mad when she tried to wake her friend up; she wasn't laughing and slapping her on the back for getting that final fling in. Like me and him had spent time together fixing cars. I think your overreacting here. Its really sad that it was the bachelorette party. Jumping to the assumption that a person will automatically lie is very destructive to relationships and is also evidence-free. This is the epitome of victim blaming and I hope that she finds someone who will provide her with unconditional love and support. Absolutely not. they can have the hypothetical conversation like you said but OP will only second guess himself if she's being truthful or just saying what he wants her to say. So your gf went from refusing to get a stripper and being pissed at her friend, and the friend being upset to saying it was totally Fine? If you want to hold another person responsible, I would go with the person who called the stripper NOT the person who refused to do so. I am old and probably not wise, but I am a better communicator than I was at 24, and as such I would be currently able to say "listen, you can feel how you want about this situation because it's fucked, but you can't call my friend vulgar names (or however OP characterized the things he called her) because there is justified frustration and then there's just being nasty and you don't get to talk about my friend that way, period.". Its her best friend and you called her names, I totally get her being upset. 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